Of course you can have your own opinion, but to call other people's points bs and biased, then not be able to say why is quite childish.

This is the basic ability of the sharingan Edit: Let me add that Black Zetsu, an EXTREMELY old and knowledgeable character who has seen many, many significant shinobi battles throughout the course of history, calls Itachi "nearly invincible." The rinnegan doesn't have the same tracking ability the sharingan does. To cut something a blade first has to pierce something, arguing otherwise is ridiculous.

The stronger the jutsu, the more chakra he takes, and the fact that his more stronger genjutsu techniques require eye contact is tricky especially since Jiraiya isn't a close range fighter in the first place. Yet you still seem to think it is instantaneous.

That's why its not called Reverse Summoning, or derived from it but the Summoning Technique.

I look forward to this debate :) So there lotd of possibilities to what could have happened, and since we didnt see, you cant make things up about the durability of susanoo against kirin. Though it does move with it's user, it is nowhere near as fast as it's user without it's lower limbs, this is referenced by both Sasuke and Itachi using Susanoo. Kurama wasn't able to gather energy for Naruto until the Fourth Shinobi World War.

And as I stated, Charge up means nothing when you have the Shairngan to analyze your targets every movement. "

You showed no proof against any of my proposed jutsu for dealing with Susanoo. Naruto, with information on that and time to prepare, still lost in a one-on-one engagement. Itachi can see the swamp before it forms because of the sharingan and he can also see jiraiya's hand signs beforehand. Itachi is smarter than Jiraiya but Jiraiya is no idiot despite his pervy antics. I don't even think itachi has to do the susanoo to win You also stated that the technique Jiraiya used to reverse summon the 10 dogs is not on his page, therefore he didn't use it. Stamina isn't the only determining factor of a battle, because by that logic itachi is the weakest character in naruto. If it does , where is the proof and how much does it differ between users?

The Tale of Jiraiya the Gallant (自来也豪傑物語, Jiraiya Gōketsu Monogatari), known as Master's Prophecy and Vengeance (師の予言と復讐, Shi no Yogen to Fukushū) in the anime, is an arc from Part II of the series. Itachi would win this battle, more evidence stacked in his favor over all. Furthermore, Jiraiya was running and hiding, three giant toads will stand out more than one giant toad don't you think?” Actually no I don’t think that. Hmph itachi was kidding.

Jiraiya made that scroll right there and then. Honestly though, Itachi doesn't even need Susano'o to win. ^Not twisting anything, by your logic Team Guy and Team Kakashi plus Chiyo were defeated by Deidara because he got away from them in the Kazekage rescue arc. How exactly am I taking things out of context or exaggerating? Ahhh well though, that may be true about the Clone and Kakashi statement, still doesn't benefit your claim. Im just gonna recommend you read databook 3 page 275 for the yata mirror, I dont really need to explain why it can block those attacks when the writer already explained why. You can tell when the technique is being prepped because the pupils and capliarillies dilate, and then blood begins to stream, and that moment of time, I think any high level ninja can either substitution, teleport, use a smoke bomb, put an obstacle in front of them, countless other options and they all cause amatersau to miss them. Saying all Susanoo have the same durability is just an assumption, what do you base that off? He also has genjustu tactics and intelligence that allow him to make up for his weaknesses. You would be denying what anybody can flip back to those chapters and pages would see and read. Or the blade that hit nagato, a sensor type, from a MASSIVE distance away before he could even react. Just had another thought, it might be possible for Jiraiya to develop a suppression seal, like the one he developed for Naruto, to suppress the power of the Sharingan. So you agree that Jiraiya can still use jutsu when his hands are clasped? The flames spawned on the gyuki face but instantly spread over its huge body. And was a ploy to bring out sasuke as well who was happy to jump at a chance for revenge. hey everyone is forgetting that itachi has low chakra reserve he can't keep using Amaterasu, also since Jiraiya would have studied it in detail he could come up with back up. He basically had easy pickings for times he's used Genjutsu: Sharingan. As I stated before I agree that we don't know what state Susanoo was in when it got hit by Kirin, but a jutsu of that level managed to damage Susanoo, so a jutsu of the same level should also be able to damage Susanoo. To get past Yata Mirror, Jiraiya could use food cart destroyer technique to attack Itachi from above and their is also toad chant. There isnt enogh details to do vs battles you can only go off speculation and what if scenarios. A) From the comparison I made in my previous post. QuakingStar wrote: ItachiUchiha123 wrote: Itachi could take on nagatos multiple headed dog and a couple others of nagatos summonings so itachi should be able to deal with the toads as well . You do realize that the fight versus sasuke waa the only battle he was pushed to his limit in, and he still nearly outlasted hebi sasuke who had more stamina. Amaterasu should always be able to burn through that stomach. ^That is an assumption right there, and no, since you stated this you have to prove this.

Also ep 131 Well apparently the Sage Art: Ultra-Big Ball Rasengan can curve away a mountain.

Since Jiraiya did not summon three giant toads against 6 peins even when he needed help against them, or the summonings, I highly doubt he would against Itachi.



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